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The OT and the NT are filled with justifications for the use of death in war and as punishment in accordance with Jewish Law and not as a last resort.
St Paul participated in the killing of Stephen...

Yes it's always evil.
And we certainly know that by the Crucifixion and by the fact that the dignity of the human person is sacrosanct.

The OT in many instances runs counter to the NT most...

It's fair to say that Roman Catholic, Eastern and Orthodox Christians have an incredibly strong love for Mary not to mention a depth of Marian Theology to support it.
That being that case, there...

I find it ironic that current Catholic and other Christian proponents of the Death Penalty seem to forget that the Lord was a victim of the Death Penalty.
It was "legally applied" and for the people...

I think the great hope that people of faith have is that God does indeed bring us peace and alleviates our suffering.
The question we have is "when"?
I believe with my whole heart that God does...

I think this man has anger issues.
Jesus is not remembered as a person who spewed invective upon the crowds as a means to gather people to him.

In fact just the opposite is the case. If we...

The more I consider these types of doomsday ..inside scoop..messages with special "knowledge"..the more I feel it is a sign of a Neo Gnostic heresy.
The notion that some seer might have a "scoop"...

I think we should relocate this Thread to the Debate forum because it is very likely a topic where most who participate will have a divergent take.

Until then, 3 Days of Darkness "prophecy" is...

What we actually know about Pilate from a historical point of view is scant.
There is myth and there is legend but aside from that, we only have the situation he is squarely placed in with Jesus.
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Sorry but this is categorically and factually incorrect and you're making up your own narrative disconnected from reality.

The CDF explained how and where the revision comes from which is the...

The goal posts continually shift.
Now it's about what is true and whose truth has more authority.

Church teaching is not dependent upon our own personal opinions on a topic.
Many Catholics do...

To suggest that a papal change in canon law ( happens often enough), and a change in teaching ( eg Catechism) is not to be considered "legitimate" is to skirt everything Catholics know and are taught...

Your entire house of cards argument in favor of the CP rests on the premise that the Church does not change.
The Church changes..has changed and will continue to change because we are changing. ...

Infallibility is not needed for the Church to affirmatively teach and speak on any number of issues. Infallibility is always present with dogmatic teachings ( eg Immaculate Conception, True...

Strangely enough, it has been changed.
The Catechism is not meant to confuse us, it is a clear succinct resource that Catholics reference for all sorts of teachings and positions.
Indeed it is a...

No matter how much wiggling or jiggling you can muster ( and as I can see from this Thread it's a lot) the bottom line is that the Catholic Church is officially teaching that Capital Punishment is...

I'm not sure if you're taking the time to analyze the connections being made in the revised teaching. The CDF breaks down the logical pathway from which the Church arrived at the Revision. The...

First of all, the pope alone has all the authority he needs to make a revision such as this. It is well within the purview of a pope to use his authority in this manner.
In the RC Church, the pope...

The Church also now teaches that CP is inadmissible and she is mandated to its end globally.

The Catechism's language is always straightforward with endnotes referencing scripture, encyclicals, Vatican documents, etc.
The Catechism is a comprehensive reference source for Catholics and non...

The CCC says it all..

Consequently, the Church teaches, in the light of the Gospel, that “the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the...

There is not a phrase in the teaching which is ambiguous. It is simple, distinct and clearly worded.





Yes indeed you are intentionally muddling what is clear because ..well...you don't...

My position is to follow Church teaching because as a Catholic that is what I am bound to do.

Ergo, my argument is pretty straightforward and is dedicated to following the revised teaching...

That is not the new teaching in the Catechism:

The death penalty

2267. Recourse to the death penalty on the part of legitimate authority, following a fair trial, was long considered an...

Seems to me that in all of your posts you are pinning for the teaching that allows for CP and a teaching which expresses it as moral.

Well, that's not the case today. Church teaching changes and...